Morryde X Factor cross brace

[Meanjean73]

I know it’s debatable if these are needed and they don’t fit on the front and rear leaf spring hangers.

Curious if anyone added this to their center hanger?

I picked one up and will install it the next few days.
Main reason I wanted one is every time I get to my house I have to make a tight U turn (on gravel) before backing into the shop. Seeing those wheels angled makes me nervous! Figured more bracing in the center can’t hurt.

 

[George]

Never heard of this but it's worth looking into. One wheel leaning left and one right puckers me up too. 😬
https://morryde.com/products/x-factor-crossmember/
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/MORryde/MR33WR.html

 

[Meanjean73]

Never heard of this but it's worth looking into. One wheel leaning left and one right puckers me up too. 😬
https://morryde.com/products/x-factor-crossmember/
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/MORryde/MR33WR.html

Yup that’s the one. Guess I should have put a link to it. I’ll let you know how difficult it is to install.
Shackle compatibility chart

 

[M and E]

I know it’s debatable if these are needed and they don’t fit on the front and rear leaf spring hangers.

Curious if anyone added this to their center hanger?

I picked one up and will install it the next few days.
Main reason I wanted one is every time I get to my house I have to make a tight U turn (on gravel) before backing into the shop. Seeing those wheels angled makes me nervous! Figured more bracing in the center can’t hurt.

I know you are a really accomplished DIYer based on your posts (I'm guessing a pro in the trades now or at some point in your life). Apologies if this is stating the obvious. These won't stop the scrub or sidewall flex. The energy doesn't go away when these are installed, it just gets transferred someplace else. That energy transfer will, in my opinion, present a very low risk, but worth just giving it a few minutes of thought of where that energy will be transferred.

EDIT: You'll probably turn quicker when backing.

 

[Lantley]

I know you are a really accomplished DIYer based on your posts (I'm guessing a pro in the trades now or at some point in your life). Apologies if this is stating the obvious. These won't stop the scrub or sidewall flex. The energy doesn't go away when these are installed, it just gets transferred someplace else. That energy transfer will, in my opinion, present a very low risk, but worth just giving it a few minutes of thought of where that energy will be transferred.

EDIT: You'll probably turn quicker when backing.

If I think about tire flex and scrub as energy transfer. Do I want that energy transferred somewhere else?
Tires are a definite wear item that absorbs this energy. Is there a benefit to transferring this energy to other components?

 

[M and E]

If I think about tire flex and scrub as energy transfer. Do I want that energy transferred somewhere else?
Tires are a definite wear item that absorbs this energy. Is there a benefit to transferring this energy to other components?

Scrub and flex, skipping too, is energy transfer and that won’t go away, but it will change a bit. Hanger, spring, and frame flex will absolutely be changed. That is the consideration I was referring to in regard to energy transfer. Should be fine with this set up but I’d consider everything up and downstream… bolts, bushings, hangers, studs, wheels, spring pack points, shock mounts, welds as being influenced by this. Low risk for sure; suspension systems are reinforced all the time without catastrophic failure. Maybe more upside befit than downside risk. There are formulas out there on the web if interested.

 

[Meanjean73]

I know you are a really accomplished DIYer based on your posts (I'm guessing a pro in the trades now or at some point in your life). Apologies if this is stating the obvious. These won't stop the scrub or sidewall flex. The energy doesn't go away when these are installed, it just gets transferred someplace else. That energy transfer will, in my opinion, present a very low risk, but worth just giving it a few minutes of thought of where that energy will be transferred.

EDIT: You'll probably turn quicker when backing.

Understand. My thought was to help reduce strain on any one single point. If the cross brace reduces load on one hanger and some load shared with the other then it would help reduce load on other parts of the trailer. Not sure, but I figured $130 and some time it’s cheap insurance.

Also what do you mean I’ll turn quicker when backing? Make a 3 point turn?
My space is about 60 feet wide so if the rv and truck don’t stay in a turn I won’t have room.

Some times I have no clue what I’m doing. Just a guy who is YouTube certified, learning as I go.

 

[M and E]

Also what do you mean I’ll turn quicker when backing

You’re going to reduce some slack. Inevitable if installed and performs correctly. So when you back up your trailer will begin turning sooner than if you did not have a reinforced axle. Think of it in terms of a front end of the truck. If you have a no sway bar steering can be slower, stock a little faster in turns, Helwig better still. Same idea. Less slack = faster into turns just in this case in reverse. It will be noticeable for sure and not a “negative” just different.

Slack slows maneuvering and recovery.

 

[Meanjean73]

Got side tracked with the underbelly project but I was able to get this installed today in about an hour. Fairly straight forward and didn’t need to remove the wheels. Solid kit and should help prevent flex of the center hanger. No clearance issues with the propane line.

 

[Flyer32RLS]

Following...
My thoughts were the X brace takes away much of the stress on the hangers. When backing up the wheel wants to tilt and that puts stress on the individual hangers but with the X brace, it greatly reduces the side stress on the hangers. Watching video's on it, the hangers are what snaps after some much bending back and forth. I think it is well worth the $160 to put them on. BTW, they are the same price from Amazon or eTrailer but I think there is shipping with eTrailer, not sure.

Update: Just went to YouTube and looked at X brace installation. I guess you can just add one brace as Meanjean73 did but the video shows a brace being installed on each hanger. Each end of the leaf springs and the middle. That would be a very solid brace on ALL the hangers.
Very informative video. Link to it below.

 

[Meanjean73]

I bought this directly from Moryde and they had 20% off sale and free shipping. Arrived to Oregon from Indiana in about 3 days.

ShopMorryde

 

[Flyer32RLS]

I bought this directly from Moryde and they had 20% off sale and free shipping. Arrived to Oregon from Indiana in about 3 days.

ShopMorryde

I have been investigating the X Beam support and if you look at the video, he has mounted the X Beam at all three mounting points of the leaf springs. The CRE3000 mount in the middle, and at both ends of the leaf spring support bracket. That has got to make it very sturdy, Need all 3? Not sure but has to be better than just the one as the twisting occurs at all 3 (6) locations.

 

[Meanjean73]

I have been investigating the X Beam support and if you look at the video, he has mounted the X Beam at all three mounting points of the leaf springs. The CRE3000 mount in the middle, and at both ends of the leaf spring support bracket. That has got to make it very sturdy, Need all 3? Not sure but has to be better than just the one as the twisting occurs at all 3 (6) locations.

Unfortunately they won’t fit all three locations. The front and rear shackles hangers are too short. Needs to be 3.25”. My Paradigm is at 2.25”’. Not a bad thing IMO. Less leverage means less torque on the shackle hangers.

 

[Flyer32RLS]

Unfortunately they won’t fit all three locations. The front and rear shackles hangers are too short. Needs to be 3.25”. My Paradigm is at 2.25”’. Not a bad thing IMO. Less leverage means less torque on the shackle hangers.

I see what you are saying. Did you ask eTrailer if they have the longer bracket? Something I bet they have as you can't be the first person to run into this problem. I will for sure ask about that after when I see what size mine are. Have to call for the order and not online!
THANKS for the info!