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Gen Y Gooseneck, 5" Offset puck, 2025 340RL

M and E

Elite Member
I replaced my Rotoflex on our 385FL today and had planned to use the B&W goose ball when I realized that I am going to have to use an offset(probably the GenY, gen2). We have a '26 Ford F-450 (8'bed) and when I hooked up I only had 2 inches of clearance on the open tailgate. Way too close for comfort.
That surprised me at first but I guess you are getting the length on the bed in front of the rear axles. If you look at the pic above, I'm getting 7" with the 5" Gen 2 offset so it tracks about right in line with the measurements.
 

BryanValRox

Elite Member
I ordered my Gen 2 today.
Hi Bruce,
Any discussions with Gen-Y regarding the need for an offset with an full size bed?

I would have never thought this would be an issue on a full size bed. But makes sense given the dimensional change.

M and E and I had a discussion after his install and found out that they shorten the ball CL to Front Mounting hole CL by about 3 inches over previous models

I for one was shocked to learn that there was a dimensional change without a model number change.( at least from what I can find)

This is an excellent informational post for others considering this upgrade.

Thanks for sharing your experience!
 

2 Allies

Prominent Member
Bryan,

I called the GenY rep and discussed the possibility of the length change and he was a little less forthcoming with any changes that had been made. He led with each RV manufacturer's pin box to front storage area distances are different and that Ford tends to have there center puck more over to forward of the axle vs GM and Ram. So long story short, ordered the 5 in. Offset Gen 2 gooseball as 2 inches was going to be to close for my skill set. On another note, the '26 F-450 is a beast and can't wait to be towing to Florida in January.

Thanks,
 

Oregon_Camper

Forum Admin
Staff member
On another note, the '26 F-450 is a beast and can't wait to be towing to Florida in January.
Can't speak for the 2026 F-450, as I still get a bunch of drool over my keyboard when I talk about them. :) I have a 2022 F-450 and it is a towing beast for sure!

Question...can you measure the distance from the ball mount in the truck to the gap where the tailgate shuts? I can then do the same on my 2022 and see if Ford moved this forward a bit.
 

2 Allies

Prominent Member
Looks like 45 3/4 from the center line of the middle puck.
Regards,
 

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M and E

Elite Member
Can't speak for the 2026 F-450, as I still get a bunch of drool over my keyboard when I talk about them. :) I have a 2022 F-450 and it is a towing beast for sure!

Question...can you measure the distance from the ball mount in the truck to the gap where the tailgate shuts? I can then do the same on my 2022 and see if Ford moved this forward a bit.
I don't want to say I regret purchasing the 350 over the 450, but it sure would be nice to have, but only for now as I see us going down a few feet/ lighter weight in six or seven years. Not that the capability would not make towing the lighter rig more enjoyable but you get the drift.
 

Oregon_Camper

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Staff member
Looks like 45 3/4 from the center line of the middle puck.
Regards,
ok...a buddy measured his 2024 F-450 and it is 46" from center of ball mount to end of truck bed. That would mean his tailgate would be even closer to the RV. I'll get you mine on Dec 11th
 

LarryFOA

Member
M and E,
Why all of the suspension changes from the stock 24 F350? Was the tuck unable to handle your trailer? Thanks!
 

M and E

Elite Member
M and E,
Why all of the suspension changes from the stock 24 F350? Was the tuck unable to handle your trailer? Thanks!
Stock was okay to the best of my recollection…but just okay. I’m not being flippant, It’s just what I do. I enjoy planning and rebuilding suspensions. More so on motorcycles than four wheeled vehicles. I think the only vehicle I did not change was our last Cadillac SUV. We’re ordering a 27 Cadi and I don’t think I’ll rebuild it either. I plan on rebuilding the suspension on the 26 GMC and I put LogiqAir suspension on within the first few weeks of owning it. It’s an addiction. We all have our things!

But that said, the Hellwig sway bar and Bilstein steering stabilizer are almost a must in the Ford. That was transformational. The Bilstein shocks were a great improvement but more like evolutionary than transformational.
 
One observation when using a Gen-Y and a Curt ball, if the latch on the ball is pointing toward the camper when hitching, it will not latch or go down enough on the ball. Just a quick turn of the ball resolves this. Dont know if anyone else has encounterd this but I did the other day. Also showing some signs of wear on the top of the ball after 5000 miles. And yes I do grease it before every trip. Wonder if the Reese ball is any better or tighter in the mount hole?
 

BryanValRox

Elite Member
One observation when using a Gen-Y and a Curt ball, if the latch on the ball is pointing toward the camper when hitching, it will not latch or go down enough on the ball. Just a quick turn of the ball resolves this. Dont know if anyone else has encounterd this but I did the other day. Also showing some signs of wear on the top of the ball after 5000 miles. And yes I do grease it before every trip. Wonder if the Reese ball is any better or tighter in the mount hole?
Interesting observations and experience, would you have any pictures to show the non latching observation and the wear that you’re experiencing. Also, out of curiosity, what type and brand of grease are you using?

I use a Gen-Y offset goose ball in our Ram 3500, I grease before each attachment, and have seen zero wear after about 6K miles of towing over 3 seasons.
 

M and E

Elite Member
One observation when using a Gen-Y and a Curt ball, if the latch on the ball is pointing toward the camper when hitching, it will not latch or go down enough on the ball. Just a quick turn of the ball resolves this. Dont know if anyone else has encounterd this but I did the other day. Also showing some signs of wear on the top of the ball after 5000 miles. And yes I do grease it before every trip. Wonder if the Reese ball is any better or tighter in the mount hole?
I have a couple of questions. Have you also cleaned and inspected the GenY including the latching mechanism? Which Curt ball are you using? I'd be concerned about the fact you have to rotate the ball to engage the latch. First thought goes to that ball being off somehow. Is the wear on a specific spot of the ball or scoring all over or something else?

If you go over to the brinkley owners forum, there is a thread there with a GenY authorized rep talking about something similar. I'm sure about the rep and the wear issues but not sure if it was identical circumstances
 
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