
Is there further context to your question? Are you trying to decide on a truck setting for one of your safety settings?I purchased a 5the wheel, however, I changes from a 5th wheel hitch to a gooseneck hitch.
My question: am I still pulling a 5th wheel trailer or am I now pulling a gooseneck trailer?
Inquiring minds need to know!
Thanks all…
Is it a 5th wheel or is it now a gooseneck? Ford lists different weights for 5th wheel and for gooseneck.Is there further context to your question? Are you trying to decide on a truck setting for one of your safety settings?
Bryan...I asked that question at the Ford towing course I took at the Tampa show earlier in the year. The engineers who designed fords towing tech were who I asked. They both answered with 100% certainty, the connection type determines the category of trailer.Well, a really great question. I am sure the response will end up being a house divided.
I will give my .02 cents and come down in the fifth wheel camp. Your rig was purpose built as a fifth wheel.
Personally, I don’t feel the pin box conversion to a goose neck hitch would significantly impact the towing numbers. If anything, generally speaking, the removal of the 5th wheel hitch in the truck would free up some capacity, which likely is a least one reason goosenecks have a higher truck rating.
Many Goose neck OEM trailer designs have an “ARM” design with longer extension over the bed.
Only offering an opinion, as I am not well versed in the engineering differences between the two.
But the topic should drive a lively discussion.
Mike, thanks for the clarity.Bryan...I asked that question at the Ford towing course I took at the Tampa show earlier in the year. The engineers who designed fords towing tech were who I asked. They both answered with 100% certainty, the connection type determines the category of trailer.
That answer I don't have. I was trying to figure out what setting to use on the menu. I know the reason for their decision was the trailer's reaction to input from the driver is different across the two connection types and the yaw sensor needed that setting to perform. If I had to guess on the increased capacity, direct frame loading and the lower connection point (less lever) of a goose might be the the two big contributors.Mike, thanks for the clarity.
Would have any insight on why the truck towing capacity gets rerated based on the hitch type?
Hope all is well!
Hey Mike, I am in no way picking a fight here with Ford Engineers😂Bryan...I asked that question at the Ford towing course I took at the Tampa show earlier in the year. The engineers who designed fords towing tech were who I asked. They both answered with 100% certainty, the connection type determines the category of trailer.
Hey mind your own business.Hey Mike, I am in no way picking a fight here with Ford Engineers😂
I happened to be reading an article on the Gen-Y website today and came across this paragraph. the last sentence is what I find interesting.
What Makes a Trailer a Fifth Wheel?
The traditional fifth wheel connection is a kingpin on the trailer's pin box that drops onto a hitch in the truck bed, with jaws that close around it. Fifth wheel and kingpin are often used interchangeably to describe this connection style. But how the trailer couples is only part of the definition. In the RV and towing world, a fifth wheel is also defined by its body shape, its chassis architecture, the pin box that connects it to the truck, and how its weight is distributed. That is why a trailer connected through a fifth wheel to gooseneck pin box, which connects to a gooseneck ball instead of jaws, is still called a fifth wheel.
Certainly, a house divided topic!!!
Hope your trip is going well and travel safe!
Pain in the hindside but worth the effort. Thanks buddy! Should have it easier at work moving forward.Hope your trip is going well and travel safe!
I for one am finding the topic interesting and FULLY ADMIT I do not know the correct answer and am in no way trying to be right. Certainly , I am not saying you were wrong.Hey mind your own business.
Kidding!!! You know me, I get things wrong every day.
I should have been clearer. I was asking them for the purposes of the Ford software configuration. They had 100 % certainty that regardless of the trailer type, the connection drives the definition. But, that is only in the context of how the software sees it for the anti-sway, yaw sensor etc…at least that was the context of the question I presented. That definition you shared could be the only correct answer.
That aside, I’d put this out there. Should we define the category of trailer by its body style or connection point? Alternatively should we define it as a Fifth wheel with a gooseneck connection?
Once you convert a fifth wheel to a goose, the articulation, load bearing, handling are all identical to any other goosenecks ( you get the idea…not an absolute).
So if we agree on that, would it be more accurate to define it by body style or connection type, or both?
I do not know the answer. On the way back home after 2 14 hour work days so decompressing through RV Nerd Therapy!
Oh I know. I’m totally at peace with being wrong. That’s what long marriages do to a man.I am not saying you were wrong.
I seriously doubt that they care if its gooseneck. I would bet most wouldn't know what you were talking about.Now to get the campgrounds to add gooseneck to equipment type… 😉
😎I seriously doubt that they care if it’s gooseneck. I would bet most wouldn't know what you were talking about.They do offer 5th wheel option tho. At least in Texas State Parks they do.