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Components of the Black Tank Rinse / Flush System

Lantley

Prominent Member
I quit using tank sprayers a while back. They are not very effective and have lots of collateral issues.
I periodically use a Flush King. Simple to use, very effective. No related collateral failures.
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Phoenix

New member
Good evening everyone!

@Bill Martin @Jim Beletti

We just brought home a 2025 Valor 36v11 and we have 2 black and 2 gray tanks. One of the black tanks is near the garage. We have the one single black-colored tank flush inlet at the wet bat near the manifold system as well as a white inlet for city water hookup.

But.... We have another white-colored inlet on the exterior side of the camper near the garage and were told during walk-around that was the tank rinser connection for the furthest aft black tank. So, does the Valor 36v11 have two tank rinse inlets like this and if so, why is it a white-colored inlet?

If it is a rinser inlet, I believe either the AVB is plumbed backwards or is defective because no air or water will flow through that inlet... I believe it is a rinse inlet because the pipe coming out the back of the connection is the white piping like on the rinser inlet in the wet bay.

If it is a rinse port for the garage black tank, any idea where AVB is? Is it under the half-bath sink or inside inspection cover for washer connection?

Please let me know what you think.
@Bill Martin @Pilot4net
Anyone ever figure out the answer to this? I have been trying to figure this out as well!
 

Jwtsg

Well-known member
Is one the on board domestic water tank drain? If so should have a drain “gate” style valve?? Could also ask Alliance for a tank layout for your Vin#,,,a picture is worth a thousand words??
 

Flyer32RLS

Well-known member
I quit using tank sprayers a while back. They are not very effective and have lots of collateral issues.
I periodically use a Flush King. Simple to use, very effective. No related collateral failures.
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I question the hipe of these "flushers". All these do is back fill your tanks from where you drain them. Having said that, I also have one of these. The black flush sprayers probably don't do as good a job as one of the manual sprayers that you put down the toilet and flush the tank. All I see is that you are putting water back into the tank from the exit port and forcing it UP into the tank opposite from letting it drain DOWN from the tank.. I do that from the black flush. I drain black tank, refill with about 20+ gal of water and drain. The velocity of the flush cleans the tank. I do this as many times as required to obtain clean clear water from the tank. Usually by the second time its clean. The real trick is to use an abundant amount each time you flush. This does however allow you to on occation to back flush your grey tanks.
Happy Glamping! :cool:
 

Lantley

Prominent Member
I question the hipe of these "flushers". All these do is back fill your tanks from where you drain them. Having said that, I also have one of these. The black flush sprayers probably don't do as good a job as one of the manual sprayers that you put down the toilet and flush the tank. All I see is that you are putting water back into the tank from the exit port and forcing it UP into the tank opposite from letting it drain DOWN from the tank.. I do that from the black flush. I drain black tank, refill with about 20+ gal of water and drain. The velocity of the flush cleans the tank. I do this as many times as required to obtain clean clear water from the tank. Usually by the second time its clean. The real trick is to use an abundant amount each time you flush. This does however allow you to on occation to back flush your grey tanks.
Happy Glamping! :cool:
You are correct in that you can fill tank with sprayer much in the way you fill tank with flush King device.
The difference between filling the tank with the sprayer and filling with the Flush King is the fluish king allows more water flow into the tank.
The flow from the flush king is unabated it is the full flow of the hose. The sprayer flow is reduced simply because it is a spray pattern vs. full flow.
Both ways work however I prefer the flush King for its simplicity.
No hidden Vacuum breakers or leaks. You can see that water is flowing in and out.
No guesswork involved.
Tank sprayers and tank gauges are over rated gimmicks that could be eliminated and not impact my RV'ing at all.
I stopped using both contraptions many years ago.
 

Flyer32RLS

Well-known member
Can't argue one bit! I am doing it both ways. You are correct about the tank gauges. Mine is only 6 months old but when they start messing up planon getting those sonic kind that mount to the morttom of the tank or just not worry till the tank over flows than I wil know it is full!!:D
Happy Glamping:cool:
 

Lantley

Prominent Member

I hate to say it, but this guy made this interesting.
Thanks Mand E that was interesting. What I took away the most is that the tank never truly empties. There will always be some residual crap left in the tank. It is a waste tank don't obsess trying to make it spotless, just to fill it back up with crap!
Give it a couple of rinses and let it go. If your in hot weather use chemicals to kill the odor, but otherwise just use lots of water.
If traveling from point A to point B. Its a good idea to leave point A with a few gallons of water sloshing around in tank that you can dump at point B.
 

M and E

Prominent Member
Thanks Mand E that was interesting. What I took away the most is that the tank never truly empties. There will always be some residual crap left in the tank. It is a waste tank don't obsess trying to make it spotless, just to fill it back up with crap!
Give it a couple of rinses and let it go. If your in hot weather use chemicals to kill the odor, but otherwise just use lots of water.
If traveling from point A to point B. Its a good idea to leave point A with a few gallons of water sloshing around in tank that you can dump at point B.
That makes sense to me. There are not a lot to these tanks, the sensors seem to inevitably fail, and it’s always going to be “dirty”. I do use the rinse valve when emptying. I guess if there is some horrific odor or something, extra effort would make sense. Maybe higher levels of maintenance might prevent the odors too. Asking, not, asserting, as don’t know much about this system.
 

RockDr896

Well-known member
I am in my 3rd year, and I have simply used a flow meter to put 30 gallons in each tank (In case one nozzle is adding more into the tank than the other)...and let head pressure do the work. I get clear water after the second flush still. Meaning, no solids are visible. In all fairness, I am not a full timer, but have used it 8 to 12 times a year.
 

RockDr896

Well-known member
They should manufacturer the tanks, like a pre-made shower base. The corners, should all be built up to flow to the center at least. I had seen the video posted, before I bought my RV. A great video!! You can just see the problem with a flat bottom tank. Not to mention, it would beef up the corners of the tank for travel abuse.

The flush nozzles are inadequate for the job advertised, in my opinion. However, they are needed to simply get water in the tank, to let head pressure, do the job.

The sensors on the black tanks....IGNORE Them. The sensors on the gray tanks...pay attention. However, the gallons to 2/3rds full on my gray tanks, happen fast. The last 1/3rd of my gray tanks, takes forever. So I obviously have sensors placed unevenly. This is where the flow meter is a great tool. I now have a great idea, as to how much we use on a 3 day trip, with no water conservation being utilized. I am the camp cook and feed up to 25 people, so water is a must. It hides the anti-freeze I am adding...LOL...I need to get that Life Insurance job soon!!
 
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