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Midnight Rider

Prominent Member
Where would I find this fuse.
Under the hood there is a fuse box.

My rigs breaks was all blowed up with grease from the factory. Bearing cap was all busted up. I got them to pay for it out of warranty.
not sure who did the axels? Lippert or Dexter?
 
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Fishfnatic

Well-known member
When I first bought truck in 2023 trailer brake module fault would come on for no reason dwithout towing about the first 2 or 3 months then did not come on again. Might have been related to this back then?
 

BryanValRox

Elite Member
Curious, does the PCM update address the condition where unexpected acceleration at low RPMs occurs (I'm having that issue...now I'm hating this truck)?
Hey Mike, what the heck is going on with the unexpected acceleration?
Any chance of sharing the details and observations when it happens?
 

M and E

Prominent Member
Hey Mike, what the heck is going on with the unexpected acceleration?
Any chance of sharing the details and observations when it happens?
Hey Bryan.

It has occurred about 10 times.
Presented after the CP4 was replaced, was not noticed prior, may be coincidental timing
I have not looked at data on my reader to see what fuel rail actual and demanded pressures, VGT, boost pressure, etc. are when the issue presents.
That said, I would believe that the engine is at least at normal operating temperatures based on the amount of time/at speed I've driven immediately before it presents.
So so far, we are at an intermittent problem that occurs after engine has reached operating temperature and started after the CP4 was replaced.
After deceleration, and after light acceleration, it almost sounds like the engine is going into regen.
If I release the accelerator, RMPs drop then go to ~1300-1500, despite the accelerator being disengaged, then drop back down to normal RPMs.
I have to update the software on my reader today then I'll run DX for codes.
Any parameters you think I should look at? EGR, VGT, EGT, Boost, T/C, fuel pump commands, etc are on the list.

Thanks buddy!

I said it to you the last time we talked, and now it is even more so, I cannot wait to go back to Ram and I don't care if it needs to be a dually. I'm not brand loyal, but my last Ram was my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. It had issues too, but I just enjoyed driving that truck whether it was to the grocery store or up to Chicago from here. Just loved it. Low revving, torquey, powerful, and just rode like a dream. I hope the redesign hits soon....and I also hope they go with that 7.2L!
 

BryanValRox

Elite Member
Hi Mike,
Wow, sorry our experiencing this!
You have framed the condition extremely well, I would also start to track occurrence. Any information that you can consistently document would be helpful to the dealership, if you choose to have them investigate the issue.

In my mind, key points are:
Issue only surfaced after pump replacement.
You don’t report any dash light(DTC’s)
Intermittent occurrence
Random RPM increase

My thoughts are unless Ford stores any historical data within their module, you likely won’t find anything helpful, but your of the right mindset to plug in and see what you might learn.

As far as monitoring parameters, Engine Rpm, Acceleration Pedal, Fuel Commanded and Measured, even inputs from switches that could be used to raise rpm, cruise control for example.

My guess is that you would need to catch it in the act to learn anything and data logging would be the key to that.

Given the extent of work performed during your pump replacement, it could be possible that someone didn’t get something tightened back up within the fuel system. This could lead to the fuel system sucking air under certain conditions, which can and will cause erratic rpm.

Air is normally diagnosed by adding a sight glass or clear fuel line into the fuel system on the suction side.
Also, not sure of your fuel tank design, but if equipped with a standpipe to draw fuel, fuel level could be a clue to your issue. Standpipes can crack and the problem can be masked until fuel levels drop below the crack point.

You might consider a fuel filter inspection (just for grins to see what you might find)

I only offer these as suggestions, as I have no direct experience or knowledge of Fords fuel system design.

I would also highly recommend you get this back to the dealership for a diagnosis. As you well know unexpected increase in rpm is certainly a safety concern.
 

M and E

Prominent Member
Hi Mike,
Wow, sorry our experiencing this!
You have framed the condition extremely well, I would also start to track occurrence. Any information that you can consistently document would be helpful to the dealership, if you choose to have them investigate the issue.

In my mind, key points are:
Issue only surfaced after pump replacement.
You don’t report any dash light(DTC’s)
Intermittent occurrence
Random RPM increase

My thoughts are unless Ford stores any historical data within their module, you likely won’t find anything helpful, but your of the right mindset to plug in and see what you might learn.

As far as monitoring parameters, Engine Rpm, Acceleration Pedal, Fuel Commanded and Measured, even inputs from switches that could be used to raise rpm, cruise control for example.

My guess is that you would need to catch it in the act to learn anything and data logging would be the key to that.

Given the extent of work performed during your pump replacement, it could be possible that someone didn’t get something tightened back up within the fuel system. This could lead to the fuel system sucking air under certain conditions, which can and will cause erratic rpm.

Air is normally diagnosed by adding a sight glass or clear fuel line into the fuel system on the suction side.
Also, not sure of your fuel tank design, but if equipped with a standpipe to draw fuel, fuel level could be a clue to your issue. Standpipes can crack and the problem can be masked until fuel levels drop below the crack point.

You might consider a fuel filter inspection (just for grins to see what you might find)

I only offer these as suggestions, as I have no direct experience or knowledge of Fords fuel system design.

I would also highly recommend you get this back to the dealership for a diagnosis. As you well know unexpected increase in rpm is certainly a safety concern.
I honestly can’t thank you enough Bryan!!!
 
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