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Re-securing Dining Table To Wall

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jagibson58

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Last year we upgraded the dining table to the swivel type and found out it was not what we wanted. Now the top bolt we cannot tighten firmly. Any suggestions to change out the bolt or add an additional bolt on the frame at the top? Unsure of what the distance is between the inside wall and the outside fiberglass wall. Alliance sent us a diagram a while back showing the aluminum structure. it looked like the table brackets aligned to the aluminum structure.
 
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RoadJunkie

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If I understand correctly, the threads on the original mounting bolt stripped and enlarged the hole such that the bolt no longer grabs onto the aluminum stud? You may want to consider using the existing hole and mounting a "NutSert".
 
Jwtsg

Jwtsg

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Here is a suggestion for your consideration.

Am certain other members also will have suggestions but the table probably is intended to remain.​

if you use rivets use these type as the shaft is scored to facilitate collapse & the large head compresses on the inside of the wall forms a good 3 way mushroom leaf compression to increase the hold. Comes in different lengths, counts etc. Have had very good luck over the years for shelving, mirrors, coat, robe hooks. Drawback is removal at a later date,,,but able to carefully cut rivet shaft off right behind rivet cap w a small bull nose wire cutter.​

Amazon: multiple lengths, sizes available depending on application: Hope this helps,,,good luck! 👍🌞!​

BoatALLCLEAN 3/16" x 1" Tri-Fold Large Head Rivets Assortment - 80Pcs,Black Tri-fold Exploding Pop Rivets Solid Aluminum Tri Grip Rivets Bulb Style Rivets -​

 
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George

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I respectfully disagree that an aluminum rivet is a good choice to hold up the table bracket. They're fine for coat racks or towel bars but there will be quite a bit of pull-out force — especially on the top hole(s). Even 30 pounds of weight on the end of the table can create ~120 pounds of pull on the fastener.
When I changed to the swivel table bracket I found that it had to be perfectly aligned with the aluminum studs. Its hole pattern was slightly wider that the original pattern. Double check that you've caught the stud and predrill a hole for a non-self drilling sheetmetal screw of a larger size. Predrill on the smaller side of hole size recomendations.
 
Jwtsg

Jwtsg

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Yikes,,,,,They certainly will not stand up,to that kind of force,,,,thank you for your solution, advice & recommendation!,,,good information!
 
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jagibson58

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Recieved the following info from Alliance on Paradigm, Valor and Avenue the exterior walls are 1 7/8 “ thick. The end walls on the slide outs are 1 3/16” thick. Best recommendation is a rivet to make attachments to the wall.
 
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George

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jagibson58 said:
Recieved the following info from Alliance on Paradigm, Valor and Avenue the exterior walls are 1 7/8 “ thick. The end walls on the slide outs are 1 3/16” thick. Best recommendation is a rivet to make attachments to the wall.
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I have to believe that did not fully understand what you were attaching to the wall. They just gave you the stock answer for mounting picture frames and towel bars like @Bill Martin talked about in his video — notwithstanding the TV brackets mentioned for mounting 20 pound TV's.
If rivets were the best thing to use then they would be using them instead of screws. Possibly if you are still catching the "studs" they might work but I would never expect them to hold a table in ⅛" Luan plywood.
 
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RockDr896

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Whatever you decide to do, you can order seam tape from Alliance that matches the interior of you rig. This may help you in the future, if new holes are required and old holes need to be covered up. Perhaps it will give you some peace of mind, concerning the finishing stage.
 

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Jwtsg

Jwtsg

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George said:
This is a chart for aluminum tri-fold rivets. It shows the tensile strength of 4mm rivets to be 170 pounds. So possibly they WILL work for your table. Wouldn't hurt to go larger either — and catch a stud, not Luan.
***(Insert image of "egg on face" here)***
I would personally still use screws but that's just me.
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One thought for consideration: screws are easily removable,,,rivets,,,not so much 👍
 
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