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Portable Waste Tank on Ladder?

Mark & Kim

Member
Hi, we have an Avenue 23ML and I was thinking about hanging my 15 gallon (empty - 34 pounds) Rhino waste tank on the ladder during travel. I have it hooked on one rung to the ladder with attachments and two straps in two designated locations around the ladder. Seems safe and I did the same with our Lance trailer, anyone have an opinion on this storage option?
 

Lantley

Prominent Member
I carried a 42 gallon barker tank using a folding chair rack on my last 5th wheel , SOB not an Alliance product.
I did it for 3 or 4 seasons but eventually it broke /dislodged the ladder mounts at the roof connection.
In the end that ladder mount problem was hard to resolve.
I do not recommend carrying tote on ladder rack regularly!
Once in a while maybe OK, but carrying tote on ladder every trip is taking a chance that is more trouble than its worth.
 

SKYSKIOC

Well-known member
they say definitely don't hang anything on your ladders when traveling. Josh, the RV nerd had a small video or something about that. with all the bouncing on the road it can dislodge the ladder from the back of the unit with that extra weight. I know it's not much but it can happen. they really tell you not to hang anything on it.
 

Flyer32RLS

Well-known member
Not sure about the hanging ability of the ladder but just doesn't look like it belongs on a expensive camper. Tie it down on the top of your vehicle would look somewhat better!!
 

Chaseweston

Well-known member
I now use a 143gal black Vevor bladder to empty three tanks in one run. But when we had a Camco toter, I was contemplating this storage solution: Toter Tank Storage Solution

I ultimately drilled some small holes in the frame and used two ratchet straps to suck it up tight against the underbelly. This worked until I tried to travel with it full in this location to limp to the dump station... that was the end of our Toter tank's life, and unfortunately 36 gallons of gray water on a bumpy backroad in CO..

No issues with the bladder so far though and drastically decreased cadence and occurrence of having to haul to a dump station.
 

George

Well-known member
I now use a 143gal black Vevor bladder to empty three tanks in one run.
The bladder is an interesting idea. Can you explain how you use it?
If you place it on the ground and drain into it how do you get it into your truck to empty it?
If you put it into the truck first how do you get your waste water into it? Macerator pump?
 

Chaseweston

Well-known member
The bladder is an interesting idea. Can you explain how you use it?
If you place it on the ground and drain into it how do you get it into your truck to empty it?
If you put it into the truck first how do you get your waste water into it? Macerator pump?
I first found this video: Revolutionizing Boondocking RV Life: Our Game-Changing Black Tank Tote Solution

And then their follow-up: Revolutionizing Boondocking RV Life: Our IMPROVED Controversial Black Tank Tote System

Our setup is mostly like there's but I used a hub valterra bayonet adapter instead of threaded to go into the fernco.

To summarize though - I lay out the bladder in the bed of the truck and use a macerator pump to pump the black tanks and both grays into it, drive to the dump station, hook up regular sewer hose and open the valve. Flush it from the top as normal and then fold it back up, tuck it to the side of the hitch, and fill our 55gal drum of water at the nearest potable source. I will grab a blue 143gal bladder for water next time they go on sale on amazon though. Now that we can haul this much waste water in one go, water has become our constraint at 55gal a run. Since I already have the drum with us, I will be able to fill the 98gal water tank on board, and pump the excess 45gal into the drum for on-site reserve.

I have recently, and rather unfortunately learned that after a few weeks of this method, without the velocity of a fully open sewer line during a normal dumping situation, the black tank cannot expel the solids very well since the "flow" has to sit against the macerator and is pumped according to the pump rate. I am now fighting the dreaded pyramid in the main black tank. I plan to open the black tank gate valve, let it flow to pump, close it, pump the contents, then open again to have a gravity runway, close, pump, repeat, until empty. Trying to allow the velocity of the initial flow to bring solids with it instead of leave them behind in the tank. These are the details I don't get to explain to my wife. So thank you.. ha!
 
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