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Gateswood

Active member
You can energize the main GFCI circuit on inverter power but you wont be able to do it inside the main panel. You'd either need a sub panel that is energized by the inverter AC out circuit or remove the hot neutral and ground wires from the main panel GFCI breaker and extend them to the AC Out from inverter. Could even swap circuits if you wanted. Pull the current "secondary circuit" wires back to the panel and connect to GFCI breaker and run the existing GFCI circuit to the Inverter AC out location.

The secondary GFCI circuit does not shut off with any of the AC breakers because when you kill the AC in to the inverter (with the inverter breaker) the internal transfer switch in the PD 1620 switches to battery power to feed that circuit.

If you connect the AC out from the inverter to any breaker in the main panel you will back feed the whole panel including the converter which will try and charge the battery from the battery and the inverter itself running in a loop (if it doesn't fault, or open a time travel portal, not sure which will occur)
Thank you. How much time do you think a competent RV electrical tech who is unfamiliar with the Alliance method of electrical usage restriction would need to successfully complete this task?
 

Chaseweston

Well-known member
Thank you. How much time do you think a competent RV electrical tech who is unfamiliar with the Alliance method of electrical usage restriction would need to successfully complete this task?
I can't see this taking over two hours max. Depending on how easily accessed your panel and inverter are and how close they are to each other, it could take as little as 45 min. Pulling the Romex between panel location and inverter location has the most unknown. It could mean running 5 feet of wire across your basement "behind the scenes" or if your inverter is in front storage, you've got a little further to go. do you know if there is a 4 square box right by your inverter already, where is that located on the RV?
 

Gateswood

Active member
I can't see this taking over two hours max. Depending on how easily accessed your panel and inverter are and how close they are to each other, it could take as little as 45 min. Pulling the Romex between panel location and inverter location has the most unknown. It could mean running 5 feet of wire across your basement "behind the scenes" or if your inverter is in front storage, you've got a little further to go. do you know if there is a 4 square box right by your inverter already, where is that located on the RV?

The inverter and solar controller are in the front compartment where the batteries live. It has to be almost 20' between there and the panel/converter in far end of the kitchen. The inverter AC in and out wires in the large gray conduits and the +12V wires all disappear into the bottom part of passthrough wall near the driver side frame just inside the tank box. I can't find where they go from there so they just about have to be routed between that basement flooring and the underbelly liner. I haven't pulled the converter/panel yet. I suspect somewhere behind that may be where they resurface.

The only 4 square box I've found is in the closed off utility section of the passthrough. Wires in and wires out. This looks like wires coming back up to the front to feed the bedroom/bathroom, the passthrough GFIC outlets and maybe the controllers for the slides and jacks. No evidence of either of the AC power or the 12V cables from the inverter in this area.

Another unexpected find. The two passthrough outlets marked as GFCI are not connected to either of the other two GFCI circuits or the GFI breaker. I can't find another master GFI outlet that may control them. They're also not connected to the three outlet non-GFCI bedroom circuit just above that plays nice with the inverter and are hot on battery power.

I did accomplish one thing. Now the TV is getting better signal from the antenna. They didn't bother tightening any of the coax connectors.
 

Gateswood

Active member
I observed another oddity in this delicate little daisy. I went in this morning to set up a coffeemaker and found the secondary CFCI was dead as a hammer. It was fine the last time I was in there because I started the TV to check the signal issues after securing all the coax downstairs. No power to it. I also noticed the three bedroom outlets were dead. Once I reset the Inverter breaker, it all came back online.

The only thing running on that CFCI circuit was a dehumidifier that uses 55 watts. It's been running in there for weeks unless the shore power was disconnected. This thing is a mess.
 

Gateswood

Active member
I pulled the panel to see what was behind it. No evidence of the gray conduit as seen protecting the inverter AC in and out wires. Maybe they just used that far enough to get it through the wall. There's a 6/3 stranded NM-B coming up through the floor and into the 50A panel breaker. The 6 gauge 12v also come up through the hole in the floor to the panel. There's only one single-wide box behind the hole in the floor. It's difficult to see but that has yellow romex.

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