Cleaning Up The Wiring Mess

[jagibson58]

Does your Paradigm have a messy, cluttered wiring mess? Well, mine did. Located in the front storage area near the battery and hydraulic pump. I don’t know why they can’t take a few minutes and neatly place the wiring? So, I spoke with my RV tech and he suggested an additional NEGATIVE and POSITIVE buss bar. They are 12 volt and 300 amps each from Amazon. Now, it is a lot neater. Pictures attached.

 

[Oregon_Camper]

Agree 100%. The extra $30 for a proper busbar could easily be passed on to the buyer.

 

[Socal-Paul]

While I agree, there are many things that have gone through the form that the price of might be passed along to the buyer or the company could just take a little less profit. The problem is the company would price themselves out of business and/or file for bankruptcy. It's not just the price of the items but the price of the labor involved.

 

[RockDr896]

I think they throw away a lot of potential profit, just in excess wire. Wire is not cheap. Just look at all the wire I had to support and was just laying on the underbelly of my rig. There is more than $30 of waste here.

Consider how well managed, wiring is in cars and heavy equipment. They aren't just throwing excess bundles of wire behind in their products. This is a design and process concern, that could easily be tightened up. I have yet to see evidence of improving line efficiency, with this being low hanging fruit in the build process. Giving the people on the line 40' of wiring, when they only need 30', as well as no place to hang the excess wiring, nets these results. Now consider their choice in component choices and their need to buy at scale.

Something is wrong in the Elkhart labor force and it needs new blood in my opinion. They are all trading the same group of people and the number of years they may have in the industry, does not reflect an improvement across ALL brands, from what I have observed in 3 years.

 

[Lantley]

They are paid by the piece. Workers have no incentive to slow down and do it right. More importantly, doing it right ultimately cost more.
Consumers have shown they are not willing to spend more on RV's. Overall consumers are not willing to pay more for the quality they claim to desire.
It's the premium better built brands that fold first. The mediocre brands survive.
If Alliance and Brinkley survive as an independent brands building in Indiana it will be a first. While far from perfect they are the current darlings of the industry attempting to build a better mousetrap. Both are striving to do it better than the others, however history has shown that it's only a matter of time before they fold or are purchased by a conglomerate and succumb to bean counter driven mediocrity.

 

[RockDr896]

They are paid by the piece. Workers have no incentive to slow down and do it right. More importantly, doing it right ultimately cost more.
Consumers have shown they are not willing to spend more on RV's. Overall consumers are not willing to pay more for the quality they claim to desire.
It's the premium better built brands that fold first. The mediocre brands survive.
If Alliance and Brinkley survive as an independent brands building in Indiana it will be a first. While far from perfect they are the current darlings of the industry attempting to build a better mousetrap. Both are striving to do it better than the others, however history has shown that it's only a matter of time before they fold or are purchased by a conglomerate and succumb to bean counter driven mediocrity.

Until you said they were piece workers on another thread, I never knew that. It does contribute to the workforce jamming sub-par work through for sure. Looks like they created a chasm so deep, the ivory tower vs the workforce problem continues!!

 

[Lantley]

Until you said they were piece workers on another thread, I never knew that. It does contribute to the workforce jamming sub-par work through for sure. Looks like they created a chasm so deep, the ivory tower vs the workforce problem continues!!

Yes don't get me wrong there needs to be lots of reform. But I don't think the RV industry is willing or able to come clean and reform itself.
Foreign competition is needed to force the USA manufactures to clean up their act.
Unfortunately RV'ing is mostly an American phenomenon.
Competition isn't likely to come from outside of the USA in the way Japan reformed the auto industry in the 70's.
With that in mind, we all are stuck with a lot of loose wire laying in the basement on top of the chloroplast.

 

[Midnight Rider]

They are paid by the piece. Workers have no incentive to slow down and do it right. More importantly, doing it right ultimately cost more.
Consumers have shown they are not willing to spend more on RV's. Overall consumers are not willing to pay more for the quality they claim to desire.
It's the premium better built brands that fold first. The mediocre brands survive.
If Alliance and Brinkley survive as an independent brands building in Indiana it will be a first. While far from perfect they are the current darlings of the industry attempting to build a better mousetrap. Both are striving to do it better than the others, however history has shown that it's only a matter of time before they fold or are purchased by a conglomerate and succumb to bean counter driven mediocrity.

Well said! A good example of that is grand design.

 

[Midnight Rider]

Until you said they were piece workers on another thread, I never knew that. It does contribute to the workforce jamming sub-par work through for sure. Looks like they created a chasm so deep, the ivory tower vs the workforce problem continues!!

Do The Right Thing!