32RLS Rear Wall

[dwcfish]

I first want to say that Kevin Caudill from Alliance has been very helpful to me on this issue. This issue was discovered after a long travel day and he responded to my text messages and really helped out - Thanks Kevin.

We have a 32RLS and suffered the same issue with the rear wall that some of the Paradigm units have had. After a long day of travel I got out of my truck and discovered that I had damaged to the skirting at the rear of the rig on both sides. Looked behind the couch and all of the screws in the angle iron had come out of the rear wall. Looked and the Paradigm doc's and I did have structural rivets with me, but not the screws. Following Kevin's advice I installed the structural rivets in where the screws were originally installed in the rear wall. The problem persisted and I discovered that the angle iron with the rivets still installed was still connected to the rear wall, but now all of the screws that connected the angle iron to the floor had come out. I ended up drilling out the rivets and when I removed the angle iron I discovered that the gap between the floor and the rear wall is too wide for the 3/4" angle iron to really work correctly and have the screws hold in the floor. I ended up replacing this with 2" angle iron. This gave me the needed coverage on the floor to fasten it down.

If you have a 32RLS I would keep an eye on this area.......

 

[JWalker]

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[KDO]

The rear wall on our 32rls loosened and caused the skirt buckling as well. I replaced all the screws in the angle iron with larger and longer ones,( all factory screws were #8 x 1 which is a little light IMO lol), as well as drilling for new ones in between all the existing screws. This held fine till we finished our 7000km trip, without any signs of movement at all.
I wanted to be sure though as we are about to head out for a couple months and a lot of miles. This week I removed the skirts and made a custom 1/4" aluminum brace that holds the floor, thw walls, and the back together with 30 bolts lol. Totally overkill but I always do.
Honestly you could pick the trailer up by the back wall now!

Ken

 

[KDO]

I also made some dog leash tie down points on small plated and used them to cover the skirt damage

 

[dwcfish]

The rear wall on our 32rls loosened and caused the skirt buckling as well. I replaced all the screws in the angle iron with larger and longer ones,( all factory screws were #8 x 1 which is a little light IMO lol), as well as drilling for new ones in between all the existing screws. This held fine till we finished our 7000km trip, without any signs of movement at all.
I wanted to be sure though as we are about to head out for a couple months and a lot of miles. This week I removed the skirts and made a custom 1/4" aluminum brace that holds the floor, thw walls, and the back together with 30 bolts lol. Totally overkill but I always do.
Honestly you could pick the trailer up by the back wall now!

Ken

I have been back to the factory twice on this issue. One critical things that was done was to remove the screw cover at the base of the back wall and run screws through the wall into the frame. You might want to consider doing this as well. Also keep an eye out for cracks in the fiberglass at the back top corner of the slide outs.

 

[Lantley]

I suffered through this issue as well. When I remove my sofa I discovered that there were no screws going into the bottom part of angle support bracket. I added screws and everything has been fine since. Although my rear panels are still buckled I do have the new material to replace them but I've done not done so yet.
This is one of the most ridiculous issues that should really never happened. Alliance really dropped the ball on this.

 

[RockDr896]

There is more steps to fixing the back wall issue, if it is happening. I had initially tried larger screws and rivets, but it wasn't enough and finally damaged both sides of my 370FB. I can post the recommended fix if you want it. The one thing that can be done, without removing the fenders and not part of their recommended fix, is adding angle brackets under the floor. It attaches the floor to the wall aluminum framing. The black 90 Degree bracket is what Alliance recommends and the red circle shows what I added.

 

[RockDr896]

In addition....make sure you square the walls (Must pull fenders to do it)....get a heavy ratchet strap and use the hitch to pull the wall in the direction needed. Being a caveman, I also used a block of wood and a 20lb sledge to finally convince it to move where I wanted it.....Disclaimer: No other fasteners above this area were harmed in this incident!!

 

[Lantley]

In addition....make sure you square the walls (Must pull fenders to do it)....get a heavy ratchet strap and use the hitch to pull the wall in the direction needed. Being a caveman, I also used a block of wood and a 20lb sledge to finally convince it to move where I wanted it.....Disclaimer: No other fasteners above this area were harmed in this incident!!

I like the idea of the angle bracket.. Adding screws seems to have worked so far but I never fixed the fenders. I have the new material to fix them so maybe when I do that and remove the old fenders I can add the angle brackets.
This whole attaching the rear wall yourself is the epitome of RV poor quality. Maybe they should have shipped the back wall separately and had me install it myself........ Oh they did. They just stuck it in place and had me add my own screws ..........Unbelievable.
Talk about something that should have been a recall.

 

[jfk21]

Is this a problem for a 2025 Alliance Avenue 32 RLS? I have had no problem yet!

 

[RockDr896]

I think it was corrected at the end of 2023 or 2024. Alliance was willing to pay for the repairs. I chose to fix it myself, rather than getting tied up with a dealerships. Alliance sent me all the parts needed, including new fenders (Which I had to cut myself).

 

[RockDr896]

I like the idea of the angle bracket.. Adding screws seems to have worked so far but I never fixed the fenders. I have the new material to fix them so maybe when I do that and remove the old fenders I can add the angle brackets.
This whole attaching the rear wall yourself is the epitome of RV poor quality. Maybe they should have shipped the back wall separately and had me install it myself........ Oh they did. They just stuck it in place and had me add my own screws ..........Unbelievable.
Talk about something that should have been a recall.

The angle brackets can go on without removing the fenders, but easier for this old man to do without them. Remember to save the old fenders, until you trace them out on the sheet metal they are going to send you. You have to cut your own fenders.

 

[Lantley]

The angle brackets can go on without removing the fenders, but easier for this old man to do without them. Remember to save the old fenders, until you trace them out on the sheet metal they are going to send you. You have to cut your own fenders.

Yes I have like 6 foot sheet of sheet metal I have enough to make a couple of mistakes LOL.
Yes I plan to trace the old fenders.
I'm not sure why I haven't done this already because I've had the material a while. I think I'm just aggravated that I I have to address this issue. I didn't feel so bad when I thought it just happened to me, but now that I know I'm not the only one, Alliance It should be ashamed of themselves.