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Not Sure I'd Run The Starlink Mini WIthout a Router

M and E

Prominent Member
I ran some hands-on testing with my new Starlink Mini today using three devices: an iPhone 15 Pro Max, a Samsung tablet, and a Samsung laptop. Here's what I found. The dish is unobstructed and perfectly aligned. At the dish, I was pulling 240 Mbps down and signal strength as strong as -32 dBm, excellent performance right out of the gate.

As you move away Signal attenuation becomes significant quickly with distance:

LocationSignal (dBm)Result
Next to dish-32240 Mbps down
32 ft away, outdoors-68Degraded speeds
Behind closed patio door ~35 feet-75 to -81Near unusable

At -68 dBm indoors at 35 feet, not one of the three devices could complete a speed test on Ookla, Xfinity, or Google. The iPhone managed 4 Mbps down, the best result of the bunch. At -75 to -81 dBm, connections to test servers failed entirely. To be fair, I'm testing in a residence, not an RV, so attenuation characteristics will differ somewhat, but not dramatically. I know many users here have reported no issues, and that's valid. Close-range outdoor performance is genuinely impressive.

The Mini's built-in Wi-Fi has real range limitations. A dedicated router should solve it. I'll be testing with the Starlink Gen 3 router next and will report back with those results. We know the results are going to be good with those download speeds at the dish an a wired connection to the router...wont be anything exciting other than signal loss will be just about nothing and download speeds will be around 200

This could be useless to a lot of owners who just stream music or video. But for those of us who work from our rigs, this matters.

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George

Prominent Member
That's one reason I chose the Standard with the router in the pass through.
But your experience seems different from a friend of mine. He shares his mini with our camping group up to 100' away from the mini. No numbers but it's apparently stream capable. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

M and E

Prominent Member
That's one reason I chose the Standard with the router in the pass through.
But your experience seems different from a friend of mine. He shares his mini with our camping group up to 100' away from the mini. No numbers but it's apparently stream capable. 🤷🏼‍♂️
It could absolutely be different in the RV vs home. I'll check it out the week after next.
 

Oregon_Camper

Forum Admin
Staff member
Sold my Gen 2 with motor to sync to sats....been using Mini for 1.5 years. Love the mini...never had any issue with signal loss and slow speeds. I typically bring the mini toward the back of the RV and place on the ground. That provides plenty of signal to reach entire RV.

Now...I did upgraded to a Peplink system in Jan for our 4 month trip. Wanted to be able to bond cell hotspot and Starlink Mini. I like using the cell (AT&T) coverage as much as possible, as that is $22 a month for 5G LTE Unlimited data. Combine that with the $50 for 100gb on Starlink and we are set for coverage anywhere.
 

Fishfnatic

Well-known member
Sold my Gen 2 with motor to sync to sats....been using Mini for 1.5 years. Love the mini...never had any issue with signal loss and slow speeds. I typically bring the mini toward the back of the RV and place on the ground. That provides plenty of signal to reach entire RV.

Now...I did upgraded to a Peplink system in Jan for our 4 month trip. Wanted to be able to bond cell hotspot and Starlink Mini. I like using the cell (AT&T) coverage as much as possible, as that is $22 a month for 5G LTE Unlimited data. Combine that with the $50 for 100gb on Starlink and we are set for coverage anywhere.
I see where starlink bumped up 100 gig to 55.00 now. Before long it will probably be 75.00🙃
 

George

Prominent Member
upgraded to a Peplink system
Which Peplink are you using?
What I would like it to do:
1) have a 5G SIM card slot.
2) rebroadcast Starlink from CAT6 and/or WiFi to the Peplink WiFi SSID.
3) rebroadcast our home WiFi to the Peplink WiFi SSID.
4) auto failover between the first 3 items.
Are those things it can do?
Where is yours mounted? Are you using the "on-device" antennae?
I'm 'bout fed up with the 4G Winegard Gateway.
 
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Oregon_Camper

Forum Admin
Staff member
Which Peplink are you using?
What I would like it to do:
1) have a 5G SIM card slot.
2) rebroadcast Starlink from CAT6 and/or WiFi to the Peplink WiFi SSID.
3) rebroadcast our home WiFi to the Peplink WiFi SSID.
4) auto failover between the first 3 items.
Are those things it can do?
Where is yours mounted? Are you using the "on-device" antennae?
I'm 'bout fed up with the 4G Winegard Gateway.
I have the Peplink B one 5G. It can do everything you listed above, plus it can (for a fee for their backend service) bond Starlink and cell hotspot into one faster connection to internet. Great if you're working from the RV and need 100% coverage (like a work video call)

Mine is mounted above the coffee bar cabinet in our 340RL. There are cell & WiFi antenna's on the device. My wife uses that coverage in the truck as we drive down the road. Love the setup

Now...there is some learning before you get everything working. It is not simply plug and play. Youtube will be your friend and if all else fails their customer suppport is amazing.
 
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M and E

Prominent Member
I lost all of the measurements from when I was camping and using the Mini. That said, using it in the RV, mounted on the ladder using a FP Buddy, and the signal was somewhere around -40 and speeds were okay. I did test it with a router and signal was lower...around -30 which makes sense but speeds from the devices to the internet were increased significantly. So if you work form the rig, video conference and share large data sets, i would still use a router.

What reminded me to post this is that the internet went out here at home so I set up the MIni. Again, really not good at all. I do have ethernet run to outdoor receptacles and cold connect it back to my router but the service will be restored soon and I left my weatherproof cables on the rig. It must have something to do with the construction of the house, I'd almost say that's obvious.

Anyhow, pretty good on the RV, better when attached to a router, but a no go at home for me as a backup. Travelfi was much better here at home for us but I still had credits on the Starlink account.
 

Midnight Rider

Prominent Member
I ran some hands-on testing with my new Starlink Mini today using three devices: an iPhone 15 Pro Max, a Samsung tablet, and a Samsung laptop. Here's what I found. The dish is unobstructed and perfectly aligned. At the dish, I was pulling 240 Mbps down and signal strength as strong as -32 dBm, excellent performance right out of the gate.

As you move away Signal attenuation becomes significant quickly with distance:

LocationSignal (dBm)Result
Next to dish-32240 Mbps down
32 ft away, outdoors-68Degraded speeds
Behind closed patio door ~35 feet-75 to -81Near unusable

At -68 dBm indoors at 35 feet, not one of the three devices could complete a speed test on Ookla, Xfinity, or Google. The iPhone managed 4 Mbps down, the best result of the bunch. At -75 to -81 dBm, connections to test servers failed entirely. To be fair, I'm testing in a residence, not an RV, so attenuation characteristics will differ somewhat, but not dramatically. I know many users here have reported no issues, and that's valid. Close-range outdoor performance is genuinely impressive.

The Mini's built-in Wi-Fi has real range limitations. A dedicated router should solve it. I'll be testing with the Starlink Gen 3 router next and will report back with those results. We know the results are going to be good with those download speeds at the dish an a wired connection to the router...wont be anything exciting other than signal loss will be just about nothing and download speeds will be around 200

This could be useless to a lot of owners who just stream music or video. But for those of us who work from our rigs, this matters.

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My mini rocks? Crazy distances. I was surprised and impressed.
 

M and E

Prominent Member
My mini rocks? Crazy distances. I was surprised and impressed.

Mine works well at the campground too, but better with a router. Not so much at home. But, I only tested on 5ghz. 2.4 might be better at home. For me, using a lot of bandwidth, and the Starlink ecosystem while work-camping and as a backup when Xfinity goes down, the Gen 3 is the better choice. Second choice would be the Mini, but attached to the router. I'm not suggesting the Mini is terrible but rather that it has it's place. The standard has a much more robust antenna array for wifi, tri band, and covers ~3200 SF vs Mini's ~1200 SF. Standard has 4 transmit receive antennas vs. Mini's 2. The good news for us, we're only a couple/few years from retiring....not gonna matter for us very much longer, God willing!
 

RockDr896

Well-known member
I know a guy who lives on a boat and travels around the island chains in the Bahamas and works remote. He said that starlink now requires him to return to the USA after 30 days or he will lose service at the prices we we pay. If he does not return, the rate jumps to $600 per month....wild times we are in. So I guess this is a warning, in case somebody buys the snorkle attachment for their truck and RV and try cruising the islands...LOL
 

Flyer32RLS

Well-known member
There is photo evidence from the hill country in Texas that RV's do not float very well. Tend to get wrapped around trees, telephone poles and such. Not a pretty sight!! :cool:
 
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