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Meanjean73

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Inspecting a 310 and found a small pin hole in the Dicore around the skylight. When you press down on the area of the skylight water can be seen under the skylight.

My concern is unseen damage. The roof membrane rolls over the edge so the water may not have contacted the roof decking but may be on the inside roof panels.

My plan is to remove the inside portion of the skylight and inspect visually and with a moisture meter.

This rv is still at the dealership and no paperwork has been done so I don’t want to be too destructive in my inspection.

Easy fix for me at home but I have doubts they will fix it the way I would (removed it all and reseal).
How would you address this? Walk away?
 

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RockDr896

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I would vote to walk away, if they are unwilling to remove the skylight for your inspection. Let them do the work and perform the work they should have done when they accepted the rig in the first place. Good catch!! Mold and wet insulation would be my concern.
 
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Meanjean73

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Bozo said:
Run away.
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This has been a long process. 5th used Paradigm 310 we have looked at in the last two months and by far the best one with this exception. I’m going to see what they want to do. If they can show me to my satisfaction there is no damage I’m good. If they want to slap some dicore on it and call it good then I don’t think this is the rv for us and the search continues.
 
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BryanValRox

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Meanjean73 said:
This has been a long process. 5th used Paradigm 310 we have looked at in the last two months and by far the best one with this exception. I’m going to see what they want to do. If they can show me to my satisfaction there is no damage I’m good. If they want to slap some dicore on it and call it good then I don’t think this is the rv for us and the search continues.
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While this could be controversial, if the rest of the rig meets your satisfaction, as a condition of sale place the burdon of proof on the dealership to provide you with a transparent inspection and mitigation of this concern.
Obviously, moisture in the wrong place can lead to mold and structural issues that might bring heartbreak down the road.
However, if the moisture hasn’t gotten past the barriers you could be passing up a good rig for unproven issues.

Just saying that data and proof help drive the right decision in most situations.
 
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M and E

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Meanjean73 said:
If they can show me to my satisfaction there is no damage I’m good.
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BryanValRox said:
While this could be controversial, if the rest of the rig meets your satisfaction, as a condition of sale place the burdon of proof on the dealership to provide you with a transparent inspection and mitigation of this concern.
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Agree with this, for the most part. Not knowing what inventory levels are for used 310s, if there are many available, I might keep looking and they accessible to you. In the same breath, if they do the repair to your satisfaction, price and upgrades are right, pull the trigger.
 
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RoadJunkie

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If you want perfection, don't even think about buying any brand of RV. Issues like you have identified live in the shadows of even the most diligent RV owner. Only you can make this decision after consideration of the options. Don't attach yourself to the anxiety of others about the non perfect coach. That's my $.02.
 
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Meanjean73

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Update. Dealer had the tech pull the skylight and I inspected the area with a moisture meter. All good. You can see some wetness (change in color) on the ceiling panel end grain but that’s it. The leak could not have been there long because there is no wood discoloration. Skylight was resealed with butyl and dicore. Looks great. Completed the inspection using the checklist from here. 4 hours later and everything worked great. All systems checked out and I think this is the one.

Thanks everyone for your input, helps me look at all sides and some things I didn’t think of.
 

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Meanjean73

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M and E said:
Agree with this, for the most part. Not knowing what inventory levels are for used 310s, if there are many available, I might keep looking and they accessible to you. In the same breath, if they do the repair to your satisfaction, price and upgrades are right, pull the trigger.
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Used 310s have been hard to find here in the PNW. Trips to Idaho, Washington (twice) and two trips to southern Oregon. It was hard enough narrowing down a make and model. Even harder finding a used one that meets my expectations.
 
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M and E

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Meanjean73 said:
Update. Dealer had the tech pull the skylight and I inspected the area with a moisture meter. All good. You can see some wetness (change in color) on the ceiling panel end grain but that’s it. The leak could not have been there long because there is no wood discoloration. Skylight was resealed with butyl and dicore. Looks great. Completed the inspection using the checklist from here. 4 hours later and everything worked great. All systems checked out and I think this is the one.

Thanks everyone for your input, helps me look at all sides and some things I didn’t think of.
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That's great news! I hope the rest of the process goes smoothly for you!
 
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BryanValRox

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Meanjean73 said:
Update. Dealer had the tech pull the skylight and I inspected the area with a moisture meter. All good. You can see some wetness (change in color) on the ceiling panel end grain but that’s it. The leak could not have been there long because there is no wood discoloration. Skylight was resealed with butyl and dicore. Looks great. Completed the inspection using the checklist from here. 4 hours later and everything worked great. All systems checked out and I think this is the one.

Thanks everyone for your input, helps me look at all sides and some things I didn’t think of.
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If anyone remembers Paul Harvey, his famous quote at the end of his radio shows was, “And now you know the rest of the story”

Good Luck with the rest of the purchase process if you choose to travel this path.
We really love our 310 RL!
 
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mboudoin

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Good luck with the new unit. It took use 4 visits spending about 1 hour each with a moisture meter going through every inch of the unit before we pulled the trigger. So far we have only had a few issues that I could easily fix. I really they used brass pex fitting in these.
 
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Meanjean73

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mboudoin said:
Good luck with the new unit. It took use 4 visits spending about 1 hour each with a moisture meter going through every inch of the unit before we pulled the trigger. So far we have only had a few issues that I could easily fix. I really they used brass pex fitting in these.
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I’m certain more issues will come up. Like yours, hope they are things that can be fixed at home.
 
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Meanjean73

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mboudoin said:
I highly recommend checking out the Govee water detectors for peace of mind. They’ll save you anxiety in the long run. Both of my small leaks were detected right away, allowing me to grab my PEX repair box (fittings and crimper) and fix them immediately.
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How many sensor and where do you put them?
 
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Meanjean73

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mboudoin said:
I purchased a 5 pack with the wifi head end. I personally have them under the galley sink, bath sink, toilet water inlet, behind the panel for the water connections and 1 under the area where the water heater is at.
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I bought the 3 pack that has WiFi. Do these work if your not connected to WiFi?
 
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